Donald Trump sat down with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on Wednesday evening for his “town hall” conversation. The big news that has come out of that discussion is Trump’s waffling on his earlier declaration that if abortions are made illegal, women should be punished. But another part of the conversation isn’t getting as much press, and it should be.
Matthews had some pointed questions for Trump about his proposed ban on Muslims entering the country. He starts by asking Trump what he thinks the effects of even a temporary ban would be — would Muslims then be more inclined to help the U.S. fight terrorists or would it “encourage them [Muslims] to be on the other side?”
Trump responds to that by repeating his idea that we need to stop Muslims from coming to America “until we can figure out what is going on.” That has always been a curious statement. We pretty much know “what is going on.” While there are a number of facets to the problem, the main issue is that George W. Bush broke the entire Middle East with his glorious little war against Saddam Hussein, and the result of that is ISIS. In a nutshell that is what is going on.
But it’s what Trump says during a back and forth with Matthews that shows his true thinking on the matter. It’s pretty obvious that Trump, like George W. Bush and many other conservatives, sees the world as “us and them.” However, Trump’s “us and them” appears to be “rich people” and “everybody else.” In what was perhaps an unguarded moment Trump admits that there is one group of Muslims about whom he has no concerns: his rich Muslim friends.
After Trump says that Muslims have called him saying that his idea is “a great thing,” Matthews asks if Muslims are telling him that. Trump responds:
I have, actually, believe it or not, I have a lot of friends that are Muslim and they call me. In most cases, they’re very rich Muslim.
Matthews wants to know if those Muslims will be allowed into the country. Trump says, “They’ll come in. And you’ll have exceptions.”
So, apparently the policy is actually “Ban all Muslims from entering the United States. Except these rich Muslims. They’re ok because they’re my friends.”
This is Donald Trump’s true world vision. If you are wealthy, if you move in his circles, know the people he knows, have his number in your phone, then you’re ok. Everybody else is a potential suspect — Muslim or not.
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